100-летие Геноцида

[Գարնան արծիվ]

Познер об Армении. Он в 1975 году здесь был.

https://monolitik.wordpress.com/2013/05/13/%D0%B2%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80-%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%80-%D0%BE%D0%B1-%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B8/

[Армениан]

Скажи, кто твой брат

Или на Север, или на Небо. Другого

выхода у Армении нет

http://www.mk.ru/politics/2015/04/22/skazhi-kto-tvoy-brat.html

[СолнЫчка]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBNssKr-ejY

[Noi]

Сию минуту..в Волгограде..идет прямая трансляция из Эчмиадзина

В городе на установленных 5-и больших лэд экранах..

Везде стоят люди... но наибольшее число у армянской церкви..визуально две-три тысячи

Объявлено ,что в 19-15 все русские православные церкви города присоединятся к акции..будет колокольный звон

Изменено 23 апреля 2015 пользователем Noi (история изменений)

[Армениан]

April 23, 2015

Steve Jobs Took the Armenian Genocide

Personally

Steve Jobs Took the Armenian Genocide

Personally -

Nina Strochlic

The Daily Beast

Jobs, though he never spoke publicly about

his ties, appeared to feel a deep connection

with his family’s heritage. He even spoke

conversational Armenian.

Friday is the date of the Apple Watch launch—

but also the anniversary of a terrible genocide

that sent Steve Jobs' adoptive grandparents

fleeing to safety in America.

On Friday, wrists around the world will

welcome the most anticipated gadget since

the iPad came to our fingertips five years ago.

The Apple Watch has stirred breathless

speculation, imitation and excitement long

before its reveal last September. But the date

chosen for its release has caused a too-

bizarre-to-be-true historic collision that

Apple’s founder would likely never have

allowed to happen.

One hundred years after Steve Jobs’ adoptive

family escaped the Armenian genocide, the

company he created is releasing its biggest

new product on the 100th anniversary of a

mass killing that left 1.5 million dead at the

hands of theOttoman Empire.

And activists are worried that Apple’s latest

masterpiece will distract an audience from an

anniversary that they hope will finally force

the Turkish government—which has long

refused to call the slaughter a genocide—into

accepting its bloody past.

Steve Jobs' birth parents weren't Armenian,

but he was raised in the shadow of that

heritage by an adoptive mother whose family

escaped the killings for safety in America in

the 1910s. And Jobs, though he never spoke

publicly about his ties, appeared to feel a deep

connection with his family’s heritage and the

historic bloodshed they experienced. He even

spoke conversational Armenian.

In 1955, Clara Hagopian and Paul Jobs, a

young couple who spent nearly a decade

trying to have children of their own, adopted a

Syrian-American baby and named him Steve.

Steve Jobs never met his birth father and

often spoke about the strong connection he

shared with his adoptive family. “They were

my parents 1,000 percent,” he told Walter

Isaacson for his 2013 biography. “[My

biological parents] were my sperm and egg

bank. That’s not harsh, it’s just the way it

was, a sperm bank thing, nothing more.”

Hagopian’s mother, Victoria Artinian, was

born in the port city of Smyrna in the 1890s.

Smyrna, an ancient biblical town and possible

birthplace of Homer, had enjoyed relative calm

until the early 1920s. Filled with diplomats

and citizens of high social ranking, the world

was shocked when, in 1922, the city was

pillaged and burned to the ground. Images of

fiery deaths and charred buildings was seared

into the historical imagination. Ernest

Hemingway’s In Our Time, which was written

three years later, begins with an ode to the

fated town: “The strange thing was, he said,

how they screamed every night at midnight. I

do not know why they screamed at that time.”

Artinian arrived in the United States on the

Greek boat Megali Hellas in 1919, and soon

after met Louis Hagopian. He had made the

same trip seven years earlier, lucky to escape

his hometown of Malatya. Mass murders

began there in the late 1800s and a few years

after Hagopian came to America, nearly the

entire population of 20,000 Armenians living in

Malatya was wiped out.

“Anybody with family coming from those two

places would have been really branded by the

genocide,” says Peter Balakian, a humanities

and English professor at Colgate University

and author of two books on the Armenian

Genocide.

As the newlyweds settled down briefly in

Newark, New Jersey, tens of thousands of

genocide survivors were fleeing the killings

and making their way to the United States. A

web of Armenian refugees had begun to

spread out across the world. They settled in

major cities, from Aleppo to Newark, which is

where Victoria and Louis Hagopian had a

daughter named Clara in 1924.

A few years later the family moved to

California. According to the 1930 U.S. Census,

Clara was raised by her mother and elderly

grandmother in San Francisco, where she met

and married Paul Jobs, a freshly

decommissioned Coast Guard mechanic, in

1946.

The Armenian refugees were, for the most part,

welcomed by Americans, many of whom felt a

shared Christian identity with the refugees and

were impressed by the newcomers’

entrepreneurial spirit. Indeed, the refugee

cause was the most famous of its time.

“It’s the largest NGO relief movement in U.S.

history,” Balakian says. “The Armenians were

really a celebrated minority group.” Scholars

estimate that the American Committee for

Relief in the Near East raised the equivalent of

$1.5 billion to assist the new refugees. And a

film about the genocide grossed a whooping

$2 billion in today’s currency.

Future president Herbert Hoover was put in

charge of relief efforts for Europe, and was

particularly passionate about the Armenians’

plight. “Probably Armenia was known to the

school child in 1919 only a little less than

England,” Hoover wrote in his memoirs.

Not so much today. When Apple announced it

would release its newest product on April 24,

leaders of the Armenian community were taken

by surprise. It seemed that the watch, which

has spurred years of breathless speculation,

could easily overshadow news of the genocide

commemoration events. Apple did not respond

to request for comment for this article.

Jobs was viciously private and didn’t make

public his ancestry or engage in the genocide

classification debate that Turkey continues to

dig its heels into. The Armenian church in

Cupertino said that despite multiple

invitations, Jobs never got in touch with the

area’s expat community. But Jobs’ feelings

about the killings became apparent on a tense

standoff during a luxurious Turkish vacation,

according to the tour guide who led the visit,

and who later blogged about the incident.

In 2007, Jobs and his family traveled around

Turkey on a private yacht tour and spent 10

days visiting the country’s sites with guide

Asil Tuncer. It went smoothly until the last

day, Tuncer told The Daily Beast, when the

group visited the Hagia Sophia. Once a

Byzantine church, it was later converted into a

mosque during the Ottoman Empire, and is

now one of Istanbul’s must-see tourist

destinations.

“What happened to all those Christians,

suddenly gone like that?” Tuncer recalls Jobs

asking him as they gazed at the minarets.

Then, he reframed the question: “You,

Muslims, what did you do to so many

Christians? You subjected 1.5 million

Armenians to genocide. Tell us, how did it

happen?”

Tuncer says he felt trapped, unsure whether to

answer with his opinion or evade an argument

in the polite manner he was trained to use as

a guide.

“To expect from a Turkish guide to accept that

[question], even if true, it’s not very good. For

example, it’s like if I come to U.S. and ask,

‘Tell me how, you killed the Indians?’” But he

says Jobs insisted he respond.

“First I said, ‘Sir, maybe these are not good

things to talk on Istanbul tour. Let’s have fun

—this is your real purpose, to learn about the

buildings and history.’ He said, ‘No, no, no, I

want to hear your answer.”

“I said, ‘People kill each other, of course, this

is a war, but it is not deliberately genocide,’”

he says he told him. “Then I tried to be nice.

So I did my best.”

Tuncer says Jobs’ face fell, and he looked

“miserable.” Earlier in the trip Tuncer says Job

had described Apple’s vision for a tablet and

showed him the new laptops. But now his

previously amiable demeanor had changed.

Jobs cut the day short, deciding to return to

the boat docked in Istanbul’s port, and not

finish out the last day of the visit. “He was

not happy with my answer, and maybe he

didn’t feel very good after. I can’t exactly say.

He didn’t tell me. He just said I want to go

back to port.” (Jobs' family has not publicly

responded to Tuncer's account of the tour.)

Tuncer, who now works for a tour company

called Legendary Journeys, says the goodbye

was chilly when he put the Jobs family on

their plane home. “This person coming from

the diaspora, I don’t expect he will say, ‘Oh

yes you are right, I am wrong,’” he says. “He

was disappointed in my answer.”

“He didn't have Armenian blood himself, but

because of his mother, he felt a great pull and

affinity toward the fact she was, for all intents

and purposes, a genocide survivor,” says Phil

Walotsky, the spokesman for the Armenian

Genocide Centennial Committee of America.

The Apple Watch release has rattled those

who’ve spent months planning for a

commemoration they hope will finally bring

about recognition of the widespread killings by

the Turkish government, which has suppressed

its ghost against a flood of international

condemnation.

“Do we think Apple did this intentionally? Of

course not,” says Walotsky. “If Steve was still

around or if this was brought to their attention

earlier—I’m sure there were folks in leadership

who knew about Steve’s background—would

they have picked April 24? Probably not.”

But he doesn’t blame Apple for the date

overlap. The anniversary date doesn’t carry

the same weight as other dates do, and hasn’t

sparked any outcry as if the watch was being

released on, say, Holocaust Remembrance

Day. “It doesn’t have same stickiness in

American psyche as other dates do,” says

Walotsky.

Not everyone feels so benevolent. Benjamin

Abtan, president of the European Grassroots

Antiracist Movement, is organizing a weekend

of events to commemorate the anniversary. “It

cannot be by chance,” he says of the Apple

Watch release date. “It doesn’t mean there as

an intention to overshadow the Armenian

genocide, but for all people who know even

little about the Armenian genocide, they know

it’s a very big day that everybody’s been

expecting for a long time. The date is very

symbolic of this trauma.”

Abtan doesn’t expect the watch’s release will

push out news of his efforts to get the Turkish

government to recognize the genocide, but

he’s already been disappointed by the

American media’s coverage of the tragedy.

Still, Walotsky says he considers it lucky that

Apple decided not to release the watch with

its typical line-around-the-block shopping

frenzy. “In terms of being the second story

that day, at least that gives us a chance of

having a little equal footing in terms of being

able to educate people about this and ensure

the mainstream media is reporting on this,” he

says.

Walotsky hopes that tomorrow, Apple will

make an effort to pay tribute to its founder’s

heritage and the strangely aligned

anniversary. With Tim Cook’s advocacy

around LGBT issues, and Apple’s

environmentally conscious campaigns, he says

it’s not difficult to imagine the image-

conscious company paying tribute.

“Maybe in a strange way the launch of the

watch brings more attention to the

anniversary,” he says.

http://www.horizonweekly.ca/news/details/66265

Изменено 23 апреля 2015 пользователем Армениан (история изменений)

[Армениан]

президент Германии назвал вещи своими именами .был Геноцид Армян

Germany's President Joachim Gauck

calls Armenian massacres a genocide

19:55, 23 April, 2015

BERLIN, APRIL 23, ARMENPRESS. Germany’s

President Joachim Gauck has called the

Armenian massacres of 1915 a genocide. “The

fate of the Armenians is an example of the

history of mass destruction, ethnic cleansing,

the deportation, the genocide of the 20th

century is marked in such a horrible way,”

Gauck said aloud in advance to published text

of his speech at an ecumenical memorial

service in Berlin Cathedral.

As reports “Armenpress” citing the German

DPA News Agency, Gauck highlighted that the

Germans would have to “make work-up,

namely when it comes to a co-responsibility,

perhaps even complicity in the genocide of the

Armenians”.

Изменено 23 апреля 2015 пользователем Армениан (история изменений)

[moskovskiy]

То есть завтра у москве митинг в парке горького, перед посольством турции ничего не будет?

[СолнЫчка]

Боже ,что творится на площади! Серж Танкян просто убивает!!!

Десятки тысяч людей стоят под проливным дождем и не шелохнутся с места

Люди специально приехали из Грузии, Ирана, Турции послушать живого Танкяна.

Ну а наш мальчик постарался.

Прямой эфир:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYblpyVo_cc

[Ман]

http://www.materik.r...il.php?ID=20039

Затулин о геноциде (программа Русский вопрос ТВЦ от 22.04.2015 г.)

Залил в ютуб.

[Армениан]

Daron: This is not a rock concert. This is for

our murderers revenge!

----;;

Rolling Stone will be streaming live System

of a Down's concert at Republic Square in

Armenia at 9:30amPST/ 12:30pmEST.

Tune in at RollingStone.com

Изменено 23 апреля 2015 пользователем Армениан (история изменений)

[Gevorg]

Скажи, кто твой брат

Или на Север, или на Небо. Другого

выхода у Армении нет

http://www.mk.ru/politics/2015/04/22/skazhi-kto-tvoy-brat.html

Поразило большое количество негативных комментарий.

[Тико]

Жалко поздно узнал. Прямая трансляция:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYblpyVo_cc#t=2370

[Тико]

Даже такой ливень не способен остудить накал исполнителей со зрителями...

[Тико]

Солнычкину ссылку проглядел

[НезнайкО]

Там флаг ирака?