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русский текст. перевод следует ниже:

ПРОТИВ СДАЧИ ОСВОБОЖДЕННОЙ ТЕРРИТОРИИ

Территориальный торг и попытка сдать освобожденную территорию ни в коем случае не могут урегулировать карабахский конфликт, и являются смертельной угрозой для будущего не только Арцаха, но и армянской государственности в целом. Завязшие в болоте “конструктивного диалога” политические деятели Армении ставят под удар само существование армянского народа. Фактически, происходящее сегодня — это новый “мюнхенский сговор”, загоняющий нас в стратегический тупик и способствующий развязыванию новой агрессии против НКР и Республики Армения.

Сегодня, 28 мая, когда армянство празднует день провозглашения первой армянской республики в 1918 г., мы хотим напомнить и о бесславном конце этой республики в 1920 г., в результате чего без единого выстрела были сданы Карс и Игдыр, гора Арарат и древняя столица Ани, были погублены десятки тысяч молодых жизней. Это стало возможным именно из-за бесхребетности, “конструктивных уступок” и “дипломатических маневров” тогдашнего руководства страны.

Сегодня мы требуем от руководства и политических партий Армении прекратить любые разговоры о готовности сдать освобожденные армянские районы Арцаха. Мы также требуем раскрытия содержания переговоров, считая недопустимым сокрытие информации, непосредственно касающейся будущего армянского народа.

Любой политик или государственный служащий, вне зависимости от бывших заслуг перед страной, заявляющий сегодня о готовности сдать армянскую землю является предателем Родины и явным врагом своего народа.

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AGAINST SURRENDER OF LIBERATED TERRITORIES

Political trading and an attempt to surrender the liberated territories by no means can settle the Karabakh conflict, and represents a deadly threat to not only the future of Artsakh, but to an Armenian statehood as a whole. Trapped in the morass of “constructive negotiations”, the political figures of Armenia put at risk the very existence of Armenian people. The actual events which take place today are a new “Munich agreement”, which drives us into a strategic deadlock and contributes to an unleashing of a new aggression against the Republic of Mountainous Karabakh and the Republic of Armenia.

Today, on May 28, when Armenians celebrate the date of establishment of the first Armenian Republic, we would also like to remind about the disgraceful end of that republic in 1920. At that time, Kars, Igdir, Mount Ararat and ancient capital of Ani were all surrendered without a single shot. Tens of thousands of young lives perished. It became possible exactly because of faintness, “constructive concessions” and “diplomatic maneuvers” of the country’s government at that time.

Today we demand the Government and political parties of Armenia to stop any rhetoric concerning the readiness to surrender the liberated regions of Artsakh. We also demand to make public the agenda of negotiations; whereby concealing the information, which directly concerns the future of Armenian people, is unacceptable.

Any politician or public officer, regardless of previous honors for serving the country, who demonstrates today the readiness to surrender the Armenian land, - is a traitor of the Motherland and a blatant enemy of his own nation.

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MEMORANDUM AGAINST THE SURRENDER OF LIBERATED TERRITORIES

We believe that territorial bargaining as well as the attempts to surrender the liberated territories BY NO MEANS provide a solution to the Gharabagh conflict yet represent a deadly threat not only to the future of Artsakh but also to the integrity of Armenian sovereignty. Several armenian political activists getting stuck in the swamp of "constructive dialogue" vulnerate the very existence of Armenian nation. What is happening today can in fact be described as a modern "Munich Agreement" leaving us in a strategic jungle and augmenting the development of a new aggression against NKR and The Republic of Armenia.

Today, on May 28th, when armenians all over the world proudly celebrate the proclamation of the first Armenian Republic in 1918, we would like to remind everyone about a miserable collapse of that very same republic in 1920, when Kars and Igdyr, Holy Mount Ararat and the old capital Ani were surrendered without firing a single shot and tens of thousands of young lives were destroyed in vain. It had happened "courtesy" of "constructive compromises" and "diplomatic flip-flopping" of our government of that time.

Today we demand from the current government and political leaders to cease immediately any discussions and/or negotiations regarding the possible surrender of the liberated regions of Artsakh. We also insist on complete declassification of currently available information about the ongoing negotiations as any concealment of information immediately concerning the future of armenian nation is totally unacceptable.

Any politician or a government employee, irrespective of his/her prior achievements, who today openly declares a willingness to surrender Armenian land is to be regarded a national traitor and enemy of the state.

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MEMORANDUM AGAINST THE SURRENDER OF LIBERATED TERRITORIES

We believe that territorial bargaining as well as the attempts to surrender the liberated territories BY NO MEANS provide a solution to the Gharabagh conflict yet represent a deadly threat not only to the future of Artsakh but also to the integrity of Armenian sovereignty. A number of Armenian politicians stuck in the swamp of "constructive dialogue" endanger the very existence of Armenian nation. What is happening today can in fact be described as a modern "Munich Agreement" leaving us in a strategic deadlock and augmenting the development of a new aggression against NKR and The Republic of Armenia.

Today, on May 28th, when Armenians all over the world proudly celebrate the proclamation of the first Armenian Republic in 1918, we would like to remind everyone about a inglorious / unworthy collapse of that very same republic in 1920, when Kars and Igdyr, Holy Mount Ararat and the ancient capital Ani were surrendered without firing a single shot and tens of thousands of young lives were lost in vain. It had happened "courtesy" of "constructive compromises" and "diplomatic flip-flopping" of Armenian government of that time.

Today we demand from the current government and political leaders to cease immediately any discussions and/or negotiations regarding the possible surrender of the liberated regions of Artsakh. We also insist on complete declassification of currently available information about the ongoing negotiations as any concealment of information immediately concerning the future of Armenian nation is totally unacceptable.

Any politician or a government employee, irrespective of his/her prior achievements, who today openly declares a willingness to surrender Armenian land is to be regarded a national traitor and enemy of the state.

Изменения показаны красным, подчеркнутое по-моему мнению надо удальть. В русском тексте по-моему надо заменить "в результате чего" на когдаю "...хотим напомнить и о бесславном конце этой республики в 1920 г., когда без единого выстрела были сданы..."

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Мои 5 копеек. Модифицировал перевод зверобоя. Некоторые обороты резали слуx, другие можно было усилить.

MEMORANDUM AGAINST THE SURRENDER OF LIBERATED TERRITORIES

We believe that the attempts to surrender the liberated territories BY NO MEANS provide a solution to the Gharabagh conflict yet represent a mortal threat not only to the future of Artsakh but also to the integrity of Armenian statehood. A number of Armenian politicians trapped in the swamp of "constructive dialogue" endanger the very existence of Armenian nation. What is happening today is a modern "Munich Agreement" leaving us in a strategic deadlock and encouraging the development of a new aggression against NKR and The Republic of Armenia.

Today, on May 28th, when Armenians all over the world proudly celebrate the creation of the first Armenian Republic in 1918, we would like to remind everyone about a inglorious collapse of that very same republic in 1920, when Kars and Igdyr, Holy Mount Ararat and the ancient capital Ani were surrendered without firing a single shot and tens of thousands of young lives were lost in vain. It had happened "courtesy" of "constructive compromises" and "diplomatic flip-flopping" of Armenian government of that time.

Today we demand from the current government and political leaders to immediately cease halt any discussions and/or negotiations regarding the possible surrender of the liberated regions of Artsakh. We also insist on complete declassification of the information about the ongoing negotiations as any concealment of information vital for the future of Armenian nation is utterly unacceptable.

Any politician or a government employee, irrespective of his/her prior achievements, who today openly declares a willingness to surrender Armenian land is to be regarded a national traitor and enemy of the state.

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Armenia's highest ranking officials aimlessly continue to drag their feet at the negotiating table with no vision in sight. Their lack of integrity and utter disregard for our national values

have brought them to the point of accepting a treasonous concession deal that will endanger the very existence of Armenian nation.

i massaged the second sentence a little

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Фидель, тогда пожалуйста внеси свое предложени в ту часть текста куда оно относится. И кстати пропущен оборот BECAUSE OF (см. ниже)

MEMORANDUM AGAINST THE SURRENDER OF LIBERATED TERRITORIES

We believe that the attempts to surrender the liberated territories BY NO MEANS provide a solution to the Gharabagh conflict yet represent a mortal threat not only to the future of Artsakh but also to the integrity of Armenian statehood. A number of Armenian politicians trapped in the swamp of "constructive dialogue" endanger the very existence of Armenian nation. What is happening today is a modern "Munich Agreement" leaving us in a strategic deadlock and encouraging the development of a new aggression against NKR and The Republic of Armenia.

Today, on May 28th, when Armenians all over the world proudly celebrate the creation of the first Armenian Republic in 1918, we would like to remind everyone about a inglorious collapse of that very same republic in 1920, when Kars and Igdyr, Holy Mount Ararat and the ancient capital Ani were surrendered without firing a single shot and tens of thousands of young lives were lost in vain. It had happened BECAUSE OF "courtesy" of "constructive compromises" and "diplomatic flip-flopping" of Armenian government of that time.

Today we demand from the current government and political leaders to immediately cease halt any discussions and/or negotiations regarding the possible surrender of the liberated regions of Artsakh. We also insist on complete declassification of the information about the ongoing negotiations as any concealment of information vital for the future of Armenian nation is utterly unacceptable.

Any politician or a government employee, irrespective of his/her prior achievements, who today openly declares a willingness to surrender Armenian land is to be regarded a national traitor and enemy of the state.

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ФИНАЛЬНАЯ ВЕРСИЯ (внесены основные предложения сверху. Фидель твой вариант был даже лучше, но все же он несколько отходил от авторской версии - я не включил его. В принципе, можно и так как ты сказал, но тогда бы имело смысл "дать волю" артистичному английскому и в других частях. А мы все же придерживались сухой версии оригинала).

Итак - финальная версия.

AGAINST THE SURRENDER OF LIBERATED TERRITORIES

We believe that the attempts to surrender the liberated territories by no means provide a solution to the Karabagh conflict, yet represent a mortal threat not only to the future of Artsakh but also to the integrity of Armenian statehood. A number of Armenian politicians trapped in the swamp of "constructive dialogue" endanger the very existence of Armenian nation. What is happening today is a modern "Munich Agreement" leaving us in a strategic deadlock and encouraging the development of a new aggression against NKR and The Republic of Armenia.

Today, on May 28th, when Armenians all over the world proudly celebrate the creation of the first Armenian Republic in 1918, we would like to remind everyone about an inglorious collapse of that very same republic in 1920, when Kars and Igdyr, Holy Mount Ararat and the ancient capital of Ani were surrendered without firing a single shot and tens of thousands of young lives were lost in vain. It had happened because of the "courtesy" of "constructive compromises" and "diplomatic flip-flopping" of Armenian government of that time.

Today we demand from the current government and political leaders to immediately halt any discussions and/or negotiations regarding the possible surrender of the liberated regions of Artsakh. We also insist on complete declassification of the information about the ongoing negotiations as any concealment of information vital for the future of Armenian nation is utterly unacceptable.

Any politician or a government official, irrespective of his/her prior achievements, who today openly declares a willingness to surrender Armenian land is to be regarded a national traitor and enemy of the state.

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По моему:

1) BY NO MEANS не должно выделятся CAPSLOCом, придает ненужную крикливость.

2) Не может быть /BECAUSE OF "courtesy" of/, ето тафтология. Я бы сказал

"It was a consequence of ..."

3) B "Any politician or a government employee, irrespective of his/her prior achievements, who today openly declares a willingness to surrender Armenian land is to be regarded a national traitor and enemy of the state."

выделенное лучше перенести в конец, т.е. "...враг, незавицимо от заслуг ..."

Бот весь текст:

MEMORANDUM AGAINST THE SURRENDER OF LIBERATED TERRITORIES

We believe that the attempts to surrender the liberated territories by no means provide a solution to the Gharabagh conflict yet represent a mortal threat not only to the future of Artsakh but also to the integrity of Armenian statehood. A number of Armenian politicians trapped in the swamp of "constructive dialogue" endanger the very existence of Armenian nation. What is happening today is a modern "Munich Agreement" leaving us in a strategic deadlock and encouraging the development of a new aggression against NKR and The Republic of Armenia.

Today, on May 28th, when Armenians all over the world proudly celebrate the creation of the first Armenian Republic in 1918, we would like to remind everyone about a inglorious collapse of that very same republic in 1920, when Kars and Igdyr, Holy Mount Ararat and the ancient capital Ani were surrendered without firing a single shot and tens of thousands of young lives were lost in vain. It was a consequence of "constructive compromises" and "diplomatic flip-flopping" of Armenian government of that time.

Today we demand from the current government and political leaders to immediately cease halt any discussions and/or negotiations regarding the possible surrender of the liberated regions of Artsakh. We also insist on complete declassification of the information about the ongoing negotiations as any concealment of information vital for the future of Armenian nation is utterly unacceptable.

Any politician or a government employee openly declaring a willingness to surrender Armenian land is to be regarded a national traitor and enemy of the state, irrespective of his/her prior achievements.

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MEMORANDUM AGAINST THE SURRENDER OF LIBERATED TERRITORIES

We believe that the attempts to surrender liberated territories BY NO MEANS provide a solution to the Gharabagh conflict yet represent a threat to existence not only to the future of Artsakh but also to the integrity of Armenian statehood. Armenia's highest ranking officials aimlessly continue to drag their feet at the negotiating table with no vision in sight. Their lack of integrity and utter disregard for our national values have brought them to the point of accepting treasonous concession deal that will endanger the very existence of Armenian nation. What is happening today is a modern "Munich Agreement" leaving us in a strategic deadlock and encouraging the development of a new aggression against NKR and The Republic of Armenia.

Today, on May 28th, when Armenians all over the world proudly celebrate the creation of the first Armenian Republic in 1918, we would like to remind everyone about the tragic end of that very same republic in 1920, when Kars and Igdyr, Holy Mount Ararat and the ancient capital Ani were surrendered without firing a single shot and tens of thousands of young lives were lost in vain. It had happened to us again due to the criminal engagement of Armenian government of the time in "constructive dialogs" and "diplomatic flip-flopping" with the enemy

Today we demand from the current government and political leaders to immediately cease halt any discussions and/or negotiations regarding the possible surrender of the liberated regions of Artsakh. We also insist on complete declassification of the information about the ongoing negotiations as any concealment of information vital for the future of Armenian nation is utterly unacceptable.

Any politician or a government representative, irrespective of his/her prior achievements, who today openly declares a willingness to surrender Armenian land is to be regarded a national traitor and enemy of the state.

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Я вижу тут привели уже несколько вариантов английского текста пока я пыхтел над редактированием двух первых вариантов. Вот исправленный вариант.

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AGAINST THE SURRENDER OF THE LIBERATED TERRITORIES

We strongly believe that any attempts at political gambling or speculations to surrender the liberated territories by no means provide a sensible solution to the Karabakh conflict. On the contrary, they represent a mortal threat not only to the future of Artsakh but also to the integrity of the Armenian statehood. Trapped in the swamp of "constructive negotiations" Armenian politicians do nothing but endanger the very existence of the Armenian nation and make us involuntarily witnesses to what can be described as a modern "Munich Agreement" which could leave us in a strategic deadlock and most surely contribute to an unleashing of new aggressions against both the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic and the Republic of Armenia.

Today, on May 28th, when Armenians all over the world proudly celebrate the creation of the first Armenian Republic of 1918, we would also like to remind of the disgraceful end of that very same republic in 1920. Because of the "courtesy" of "constructive compromises" and "diplomatic maneuvers" by then Armenian government, Kars, Igdyr, the holy Mount Ararat and the ancient capital Ani were surrendered without firing a single shot. And as a result tens of thousands lives had perished in vain.

We demand and urge the current government and political leaders call an immediate halt to any discussions or negotiations regarding the possible surrender of the liberated regions of Artsakh. We also insist on complete declassification of the information for the ongoing negotiations in view of the fact that concealments of any information vital for the future of the Armenian nation are utterly unacceptable.

Any politician or public officer, regardless of his/her previous honors for serving the nation, who should openly declare or demonstrate a willingness to surrender Armenian lands, will be regarded a national traitor and a blatant enemy of the state.

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По моему:

MEMORANDUM AGAINST THE SURRENDER OF THE LIBERATED TERRITORIES

We believe that the attempts to surrender the liberated territories by no means provide a solution to the Gharabagh conflict yet represent a mortal threat not only to the future of Artsakh but also to the integrity of Armenian statehood. A number of Armenian politicians trapped in the swamp of "constructive dialogue" endanger the very existence of Armenian nation. What is happening today is a modern "Munich Agreement" leaving us in a strategic deadlock and encouraging the development of a new aggression against NKR and The Republic of Armenia.

Today, on May 28th, when Armenians all over the world proudly celebrate the creation of the first Armenian Republic in 1918, we would like to remind everyone about a inglorious collapse of that very same republic in 1920, when Kars and Igdyr, Holy Mount Ararat and the ancient capital Ani were surrendered without firing a single shot and tens of thousands of young lives were lost in vain. It was a consequence of "constructive compromises" and "diplomatic flip-flopping" of Armenian government of that time.

Today we demand from the current government and political leaders to immediately halt any discussions and/or negotiations regarding the possible surrender of the liberated regions of Artsakh. We also insist on complete declassification of the information about the ongoing negotiations, as any concealment of information, vital for the future of Armenian nation, is utterly unacceptable.

Any politician or a government employee openly declaring a willingness to surrender Armenian land is to be regarded a national traitor and enemy of the state, irrespective of his/her prior achievements.

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этот вариант наиболее близок к оригиналу и наиболее лаконичен. добавил THE и запятiе, удалил cease

Тико,

В этом варианте (никого не хочу обижать) много пропушенных артиклей и других лексических ошибок.

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