Противники протоколов

[Desperado Хайский]

СРОЧНО

"Вести" передали, что скоро Нлбо сделает заявление для армянской прессы, Хиллари вроде тоже собирается сказать, во всяком случае, она направилась в здание университета

[СолнЫчка]

у нас ТВ в режиме ожидания ....

что говорят другие каналы?

[Марга]

от туда же...Вестей... Россия преподносит новость в ракурсе отказа Арменией подписать данный протокол. Типа именно Армения виновна в срыве подписания.

[Desperado Хайский]

У меня включено "Вести-24", обещали свежак

[Arin-Berd]

значит протоколы сорвали туркесы

[Desperado Хайский]

Глава МИД Армении сделает специальное заявление

Сюжет: Нормализация турецко-армянских отношений

ЦЮРИХ, 10 окт - РИА Новости. Глава МИД Армении Эдвард Налбандян намерен выступить с заявлением перед армянскими журналистами в здании Цюрихского университета, сообщает агентство "Новости-Армения".

Руководитель отдела по связям со СМИ армянского внешнеполитического ведомства Армении Тигран Балаян попросил журналистов не расходиться, так как ожидается заявление главы МИД, передает корреспондент агентства из Цюриха.

Ранее была отложена церемония подписания документов о нормализации отношений между Турцией и Арменией, запланированная на субботу в Цюрихе.

[Desperado Хайский]

Подписание армяно-турецких протоколов ожидается в ближайшее время

21:01 10/10/2009

ПОДПИСАНИЕ ДОКУМЕНТОВ О НОРМАЛИЗАЦИИ ОТНОШЕНИЙ МЕЖДУ ТУРЦИЕЙ И АРМЕНИЕЙ ОЖИДАЕТСЯ В БЛИЖАЙШЕЕ ВРЕМЯ - ТВ.

РИА НОВОСТИ.

[Desperado Хайский]

Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton mediates

By ALEXANDER G. HIGGINS and BRADLEY S. KLAPPER, Associated Press Writer Alexander G. Higgins And Bradley S. Klapper, Associated Press Writer – 3 mins ago

ZURICH – U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton engaged in last-minute diplomacy on Saturday aimed at salvaging an accord to establish diplomatic relations between Turkey and Armenia after a century of enmity.

The agreement was supposed to be signed by the Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers at a reception in the Swiss city of Zurich, with Clinton among the world dignitaries in attendance. But a dispute over the statements the countries would make sparked a delay, and forced her to intervene.

"She's involved in working out an agreeable text," said a senior U.S. State Department official. "She's talking with the Armenian foreign minister, and she had a long talk with the Turkish foreign minister."

U.S. officials said Clinton and the Armenian delegation were on the way to the signing ceremony, about 90 minutes after it was supposed to begin. Clinton had abruptly returned to her hotel just before the scheduled start as problems emerged.

Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony.

The Turks and Armenians are to sign an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past.

Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the signing.

In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions.

"We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters.

Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide.

The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations."

That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war.

"There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time."

Clinton, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner were among the leaders who were on hand to attend the signing, when it takes place.

Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West.

Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for EU membership.

"This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich.

Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, is hosting the signing.

Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's ruling Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia.

But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions.

"If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday.

About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!"

On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993.

Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington.

"We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said.

[Spirit_martial]

значит протоколы сорвали туркесы

[Desperado Хайский]

Подписание перенесено на «неопределенное время»?

В эти минуты в Цюрихе ожидают официальных заявлений внешнеполитических ведомств двух стран. Как сообщает корреспондент Panorama.am, в Цюрихский университет, где должна была состояться церемония подписания парафированных протоколов, неожиданно прибыл и посол Армении в Швейцарии Шарль Азнавур.

Здесь армянских журналистам угощают кофе. Участники швейцарского протокола также находятся здесь.

СЕГОДНЯ, 22:18

Aysor.am

[СолнЫчка]

все сюда http://forum.openarmenia.com/topic/25473-iiaeienaieaa-adhiyii-oodhaaoeeeo-idhioieieia-ioeiaeaaii-ii-eieoeeaoeaaa-adhiyineie-noidhiiu/page__gopid__985724entry985724

[Марга]

значит протоколы сорвали туркесы

[Noi]

Помнится в последние дни мы обсуждали муссируемые в турецкой прессе слухи о некоем сюрпризе в последнюю минуту. а Десперадо все время спрашивал...что же за сюрприз? Кажется ответ вырисовывается

[Desperado Хайский]

Помнится в последние дни мы обсуждали муссируемые в турецкой прессе слухи о некоем сюрпризе в последнюю минуту. а Десперадо все время спрашивал...что же за сюрприз? Кажется ответ вырисовывается

[Arin-Berd]

Видишь Арни, как они плохи для Армении. Получается Турция думает о нас больше чем мы о себе. Ты не находишь в этом абсурд?