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Arin-Berd · 4 августа 2007

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Марга · 4 августа 2007

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Are Armenian organisations conservative and how does that affect our communities?

As an Armenian I am loathe to criticise or ridicule or in any way negate the effort and work of our organisations in the Diaspora. So from the outset may I take the opportunity to apologise to the reader for any sentiments expressed here which may not be in true keeping with any work they may have done personally or as part of an organisation.

The Armenian Cycle of Activism and Determination

A historic study of our people’s last 150 years reveals an interesting phenomenon of a clear cycle of activism and determination. A cycle, which seems to activate itself automatically every 20 years bringing into movement our entire people and where the zenith of each cycle prepares our people for the challenges of the next cycle. The achievements of each cycle’s reality have assured our survival whatsoever the suffering and hardship has been.

Le Quatorze juillet!! Fireworks!! Parties!! Public Holiday!!

As all good Frenchmen know, 14 July celebrates the storming of the Bastille and the start of the Revolution in 1789. It was this revolution that would lead to the execution of a king (shock horror), most of the ‘aristos’ and subsequently anybody else they didn’t like, the making of Dr Guillotine, an upsurge in the popularity of knitting, the craze for completely diaphanous dresses (very popular with the boys!!) and the ultimate fashion statement of the red velvet ribbon round the neck. It was also to spawn the rise of undoubtedly the most charismatic (and smallest) military genius the world has ever seen, who not only conquered all of Europe with the exception of England – of course – but completely redesigned the internal governance of France, the model which is still at the core of 21st century French life.

Le café du Croissant

Il faut sauver les arméniens ! Le cri est lancé. Le 3 Décembre 1896, un jeune député du Tarn dénonçait le massacre de chrétiens dans l’est de l’Anatolie. Devant une assemblée nationale divisée et un président de séance hostile, Jean Jaurès par son exceptionnelle éloquence, accuse. Accusée la France dirigée alors par le Républicain Félix Faure. Accusée également l’Europe et sa ë faillite morale û. Accusée surtout les ë puissances misérables û d’accomplir leur devoir d’élémentaires humanités en laissant s’éteindre un peuple pour que s’éteigne avec lui les conflits qui les dévorent entre elles. Accusée vainement la Sublime Porte et le sultan rouge qui profitant des conflits d intérêts des grandes puissances européennes commettra le 1er génocide du XX ème siècle.

20 Years after Europe’s Milestone recognition of the Armenian Genocide!

Twenty years have passed since the European Parliament became the first major international body to recognize the Armenian Genocide, during its plenary session in Strasbourg, voting on a momentous resolution paving the way "for a political solution of the Armenian issue." After extensive deliberations and resisting immense pressures from Turkey and its hired guns, the European legislators set the record straight on this first genocide of modern times and delivered a landmark victory for justice that Armenians in Europe and, indeed, all over the world have been fighting for.

Youri Djorkaeff: Back to Décines

The Armenian Cultural Centre of Décines (a city of 25 000 people in the suburb of Lyon) welcomed more than 100 people for the press conference of Youri Djorkaeff, his father and his clan on Wednesday 4th of July 2007.

Indeed, Youri is the new president of the football club of UGA (Armenian General Union), which used to be a part of HMEM.

The nature of the Armenian people in and out of Armenia since independence

In 1991 Armenia became a free, independent country. The years of Soviet rule were over and a wave of mass euphoria carried the people of Armenia to a period of unparalleled celebration. Meanwhile Armenians in the diaspora booked their holidays and prepared themselves for the joyous years ahead.

Strategic thinking for regaining our full strength!

Many thoughts, discussions and observations, have forced me to start writing this chain of articles. All the way through it, I wish to set the core idea of strategic thinking, which should lead us to understand our full potential out of the Armenian Reality. I will take into consideration our current situation as a whole people and nation (Diaspora-Armenia), geopolitics, and our yet unrealized potential in the light of a globalising world. This intends to gradually prepare our thoughts for working out an “Armenian Strategy” Hay Razmavaroutioun.

On a train to Sassoun

My life has been a long winded journey,

A ride of emotions mixed with pleasure and pain.

It seems at every turn there is something to hurt me,

But I know I must not falter through the wind and the rain.

Марга · 4 августа 2007

The Armenian Times is the modern Armenian journal which you have always wanted to see. The place where you will read what you have always thought and where you can show us what you really feel. It is the place where untold stories will make headlines and where everyone has the right and ability to participate. Let us not stay passive, let each of us take responsibility in our destiny.

Editorial - 28th of July 2007

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The Constitution

"If you wrong us, shall we not revenge?"

It was cold, again. The stars shone brightly overhead, the half moon reflecting the sun, provided meager light and no heat. The terrain was hard, dried mud and stones. A chill wind blew from the East as a hundred men or so crouched so as to hide from view. It was 1896, Van in the region of Vasbouragan and the life of a defender was not a life at all. It was not a choice, it was a necessity. They moved under cover of night, training the villagers to defend themselves as best they could.

The Monaco of nearly 10,000 Armenians!

Anjar, the Armenian Monaco, is but a small town in Lebanon, located between two mountain chains in a valley whose fertile soils once provided crops for the Roman Empire. This small piece of earth, once offered by Marc Antony as a present to Cleopatra, became a stronghold for the Umayyad Caliphs. However, it was abandoned and soon fell into ashes, left to be reclaimed by the wilderness and seemingly lost forever...

LES ARMENIENS : DES CHRETIENS AVANT TOUT?

Tu as oublié comment on faisait le signe de croix ?? S’exclame la femme assise devant moi. Un instant, toute la famille qui piaillait bruyamment dans le salon s’arrête. Le silence tombe et quinze paires d’yeux me jettent un regard mi-effrayé, mi-accusateur.

Comment se sent-on quand on a oublié laquelle des épaules il faut signer en premier ? On se sent mal. Mais on se sent arménien quand même !

Identity Crisis?

There has been quite a response to an article in the first issue which began to discuss the problematic area that is “Our Identity”. If we are to accept the definition of “Identity” as “the distinct personality of an individual regarded as a persisting entity” (Definition courtesy of Princeton University) then we should consider the continuity of our persons. As it is not possible to attempt any kind of definition which will seek to perfectly analyze each individual of Armenian ethnic origin currently living in Europe or elsewhere, we can only draw generalized conclusions, which at the outset are prohibitive and in no way exclusive.

“Akh Ani Akh Ani… ”

You are told to go to the local marketplace- your father’s orders. You arrive at the marketplace and wait for the fishermen to arrive. They finally arrive and you begin to look for the best catch and after a while you stop in front of a young man who looks no older than yourself. He looks tired from a hard day’s work. He has deep, dark brown eyes, a mysterious flame that glows within. He has black curls and dark, olive skin. As he greets you with a shy smile you see a trickle of sweat slide down his face. You return a flirtatious smile and say, “I would like those two”. He turns and grabs a bag and places the fish inside. Handing the bag to you, you open your money bag and place a coin inside his hand. Nervously you jerk your hand back from his soft touch. He notices your jumpiness and flashes you a comforting smile. As you turn your back he says, “Wait. Don’t leave”. You turn around and he asks you your name. “My name is Ani. What is your name?” you ask him. He responds, “Armen”.

The Road was called Tanais-Ecbatana!

The road about which I wish to write once joined two important cities of international trade. Moreover, it joined the Far East and the Far West. Goods from Central Asia, India, and as far as the Han Empire in China reached the West along this road, while the goods of the Hellenistic World traveled to the Far East along it.

All throughout the article I wish to highlight the historic, geographic, economic and political significance of the Tanais-Ecbatana. However, my ultimate intention is to enlighten the reader of the importance of a possible new road of similar geopolitical importance, which I'll call the "New Tanais-Ecbatana".

Divorce – A growing Armenian phenomenon?

There are not too many subjects that are as controversial as divorce in Armenian company. Indeed one would probably have to discuss such out of bounds topics as sex or sexuality to create greater discomfort. Yet distasteful as it may be for some, divorce is a growing phenomenon amongst Armenian families, and it must be addressed.

My Last Memory

The room was large, presented in lavish dated d?cor,

The reception of an enormous building where I waited for my host,

I observed the portraits which looked down on me from the walls,

Overbearing, dark, inquisitive and more intimidating than most.

Марга · 29 августа 2007

If we are afraid of assimilation then what..?

Undoubtedly, one of the biggest issues of fear in every Armenian community is that of assimilation. It is a reality! It is an issue which from the very beginning we have approached through the perspective of losing gradual control over its process. We thus fell into a trauma of fear out of which two main approaches of “solving” the problem developed. The first is that which I will call the “crisis management” whereas the second I will call the “one way solution”. In this context of fear and trauma we often forget approaching the topic through a pragmatic and realistic analysis which could grant a deeper understanding of the problematic issue itself and thus could pave the way for a deeper solution.

New dimensions of Anti-Armenian Racism in Lebanon…?

Most of our readers might have read and heard by now about the extraordinary parliamentary elections in Metn Lebanon that took place on the 5th of August 2007; it lies within our responsibility to cover this controversial topic due to unexpected statements against the Armenians of Lebanon. My approach will be based on a Lebanese, Armenian and International approach.

je t'aime à l'armenienne

La révolution féministe des années 70 en France et ailleurs dans le monde a radicalement changé les rapports entre hommes et femmes. Partout dans le monde, on revendique la parité dans les milieux politiques, universitaires, salariales, et aussi philosophiques où le cercle reste quasi inaccessibles aux femmes.

Dès lors, la femme a mené un combat pour l'égalité, les droits humains et la considération. Trente ans plus tard dans les pays occidentaux le respect du droit de la femme est un facteur indicatif du développement d'un pays. Qu’en est t-il de nos arméniens ? Sont ils plutôt réticents ou féministes convaincus ?

Essayons un instant de nous souvenir de nos féministes… essayons encore… demandez aux alentours qui sont les femmes arméniennes reconnues? A part Sosse mayrig (résistante et fedayin lors de l'auto-défense des territoires arméniens il y a un siècle) et Silva Gaboudiguian (écrivain) il n y a pas grand-chose. Sans vouloir minimiser leurs ?uvres, on est loin de Simone de Beauvoir ou de Simone Weil. Cela paraît normal puisqu’il n y a pas eu de révolution féministe en Arménie et que finalement elle est loin d'arriver.

What is the importance and relevance of the Armenian Church today?

Traditionally, the Armenian Apostolic Church has been a central part of being Armenian. How often have Armenians spoken with pride about the fact that our state was the very first to accept Christianity as its national religion? Then how can we forget the battle of Vartan Mamigonian against the Persians in 451AD when Armenians fought for the right to remain Christian? Then the invasion of the Ottoman Empire which tried for 600 years to force Armenians to reject their faith and become assimilated into the Ottoman culture and to accept Islam.

The War

It was just before the beginning of the second Gulf War. I was at Fort Lauderdale, Florida, with some German friends for a scientific meeting. It was at the time when in Europe and worldwide large and numerous anti-war protests were going on. However, in Fort Lauderdale, Florida they were getting prepared for the famous „Air and Sea Show“with spectacular demonstrations of U.S. Airforce Thunderbirds and U.S. Army Golden Knights. This spectacular show was going to take place the coming day, as my friends left the city the day before not willing to hear and see anything related to war. To everyones astonishment, I decided to stay and watch the show. It was very hard for my friends to understand such an interest towards warfare, and shows of such dimensions from someone who was eventually from the Middle East where the war was just going to start.

Don’t get me wrong I said to everyone! I do hate war! I know the brutality and the cruelty of war, but being an Armenian I always have to be alarmed and ready.

I need no war, but war has become part of my identity.

Armenian characteristics

We as Armenians are constantly surprising one another, either in a good way or a bad way. If someone does something good we gleam with pride and say with satisfaction, “he is Armenian.” Yet if someone does something significantly negative we again say, “typical, he is Armenian.” So why this roller coaster mentality? The nature of managing to formulate polarized opinions of the same element? Simple, we are Armenian!

The quest for the two forgotten treasure chambers

Imagine you’re sitting at home watching the latest news on TV when out of a sudden your eyes and full concentration shifts to the section of the Breaking News. You eventually read: two Armenian treasure chambers rediscovered with unimaginable riches about the history and heritage of the Armenian people. You get confused and surprised! Asking yourself where those treasure chambers would be, how great is their value? Your first thoughts include west Armenia as you start thinking about treasures discovered in the land of your ancestors. You get excited with the idea that it could be one of the treasures of one of the Old Armenian Kingdoms. Yet your excitement takes a short break because you are reminded about the destruction and annihilation of the entire west Armenian civilization on its historic territory.

To My Fair Maiden

The light breaks in through the curtains, a ray falling upon her eyes.

At first the aroma of fresh coffee tendrils to her sweet nose does rise.

Then the bustle of the square below brings thee fine maiden to wake,

And thou day begins with a rose by your side, the love that you will make!

Марга · 29 августа 2007

Editorial - 25th of August 2007

Are Armenians democrats?

A general definition of democracy would in some way incorporate the principles of representation, accountability, majority rule and participation. A convention which protects the rights of individuals by virtue of a neutral and structured policing mechanism and a rule of law separate to the bodies of governance to exact and execute legal judgments, regardless of political consideration.

A Fete worse than death

The end of the summer is nigh!! ‘Season of mists and mellow fruitfulness’ approaches as John Keats would sigh…

…but worse still, the end of The Season is fast approaching!!

No, no, not that Season, with Royal Ascot, and Henley and floaty

dresses, oversized hats and Debs Delights, Champagne, Pimms and

Strawberries and Cream, but the REAL summer season.

Let me explain..

A call for vigilance and voice!

Since the days following the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of the Soviet Union, it is fair to say that Europe has changed greatly. As much as it has become a closer unit, its basic elements have become more varied.

LETTRE OUVERTE

Dans mon article précédent ë je t’aime à l’arménienne û publié le 11 Août dernier, je présente un sujet sensible et peu traité : la condition féminine en Arménie et en diaspora. Partie d’un constat, je me suis dirigée vers plusieurs pistes explicatives, afin de répondre à la problématique. Ce constat même, avait pour but de questionner le lecteur et non de l’offenser, si certains l’ont été, ce fut bien involontairement.

Марга · 12 октября 2007

Self-destruction or Reform!?

As we are living in a time and world of modernisation and change, our mentality, our working methodology, and the existing organisational and institutional structures need a deep and on-going reform. A reform, which would pave the way for growth again! Growth, which needs the potential of every single individual, organisation, institution or social reality. The form of growth whose primary principle should be UNITY around concepts and projects besides all ideological, practical or historic differences. A growth whose primary advocates should be the youth, who see the future in front of them rather than the confused situation which is already leading to gradual self destruction.

Community Unity?

We have often expressed disenchantment with our community leaders on the basis that our communities themselves are either undervalued, under-represented or completely misrepresented and worst of all disjointed.

L’injustice venait de naître…

Depuis des millénaires, la notion de justice chez les arméniens a rencontré quelques variantes. De la création de la terre jusqu'aujourd’hui, la justice est un pays où l’on n’arrive jamais, un paradis lointain. Pourquoi donc se désir de justice ? Tout commence il y a bien longtemps. La légende (ou la réalité, c’est selon) veut que Dieu, lors de la création distribua les terres a chaque peuple, créant ainsi « pays », même si le terme est récent et frontières, oubliant les arméniens. Le malaise, l’incompréhension de ce peuple si fervent croyants, l’injustice venait de naître…ad vitam aeternam.

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Editorial – Issue 006

The world is an ever-changing place. At times it appears to get smaller. At other times it seems larger than ever before, a maze of strife and unexplainable hardship.

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Марга · 23 октября 2007

We must act to secure Justice!

We all watched with growing euphoria and expectation the developing saga that was the vote of the House Foreign Affairs Committee’s decision to accept the resolution recognising the Armenian Genocide. Yet despite winning the battle our attentions have now turned to the war.

Interview with ANCA executive director Aram Hamparian on the Armenian Genocide resolution 106. making its way through Congress.

The Armenian Times: what is the impact of the Armenian community of America on the whole issue regarding the genocide recognition process in Congress? And what is the power of the Grassroots in this regard?

Aram Hamparian: The power of our grassroots is that it is able to leverage true and moral positions. First we have to understand that our strength is that we speak the truth and that we hold the moral position. But in the face of tremendous political opposition you need to be organised. So our effort was, district by district in 435 different congressional districts having a plan to educate each member of Congress about the truth of the Genocide, the benefit of passing the Armenian Genocide resolution, and the lies being told by the other side. So we brought it up, very carefully. Literally a strategy that involved local grassroots communities contacting the deputies, preparing materials, sending out information, questioning them and backing it up with our work in Washington, our governmental affairs work in Washington. Our political power is not that which the Turkish government has which is hiring PR proms, using corporations, and getting Secretaries of State to light waters. Our political power is Grassroots power.

The Genocide Resolution in Congress

The Genocide Resolution in Congress is a symbolic step in the right direction. Over recent years, the issue of the Armenian Genocide has loitered somewhat despairingly before the steps of Congress, arms outstretched, not begging for help but hoping for justice. In the past Congress has swept down those same stairs and brushed our just cause aside, considering it as a simple annoyance. “Who remembers the Armenians” became “Who wants to remember the Armenians”?

Interview with Carla Garabedian, Director and Producer of the powerful Film “Screamers”

The Armenian Times: What motivated you to choose the term “Screamers”?

Carla Garapedian: I would like to say that it is my term but it came from a book by Samantha Power. Professor Samantha Power, Harvard University, she wrote a book “A Problem for Hell” America in the Age of Genocide, which won the Pulitzer price in 2004, and the BBC was very interested in her thesis which starts with the Armenian Genocide and the Tehlirian trial in Berlin and goes right up to the Holocaust, Cambodia, Bosnia, and Rwanda. She identifies Screamers as people who during the genocide refused to shut up. Who say this is going on and we stop it! She Identifies Screamers in every genocide in the last hundred years. And the question she asks is why are aren’t we listening to that. So I thought that was an interesting idea and obviously System of a Down screams, the double idea that the music screams and the idea that they will not shut up. If we impose hypocrisy over our foreign policy you will want to scream.

Rue de la Loi : Un groupuscule d’extrémistes turcs narguent l’Europe toute entière

Dimanche 21 Octobre la commune de Saint-Josse en Belgique a été le théâtre d’une violence inouïe. En effet, une manifestation spontanée réunissant le groupuscule d’extrémiste d’origine turque « les Loups Gris » s’est formé dans la rue. La manifestation pour laquelle aucune autorisation préalable n’avait été déposée, a filé vers l’ambassade des Etats-Unis entraînant avec elle une coulée de drapeaux turcs. Devant l’ambassade le déchaînement est incroyable et effrayant d’après le journaliste et témoin Mehmet Koksal. La manifestation qui a priori ne contenait que des hommes s’électrise rapidement et s’empare du drapeau américain. La foule galvanisée s’écrie Yak ! Yak ! (Brûle ! brûle !)

Turkish Nazis destroy Armenian Cafe in the Capital of Europe!!

The Nazi times are back in Europe, yet this time they are imported from Turkey destroying an Armenian Café in the capital of Europe. Europe simply has to act! It has to take responsibility directly! It is not merely the destruction of a café in Brussels yet a clear aggressive offence towards European values. The Europe of today which was born from the carnage of total destruction is today challenged once again by similar ideological forces, which caused the destruction of the entire Continent during World War II. These forces are those of the ultra nationalist Turks who have gone a step further by striking three capitals at once. The Capital of Belgium, the Capital of the European Union, and the Capital of NATO. Yet above all they hit the very basics of European values and dignity. Destroying the café of an ethnic Armenian, simply because he is an Armenian reminds us of the times when Nazi gangs used to destroy Jewish shops and property in the 1930s.

Faut-il laisser l’Arménie se dépeupler ?

200 000 habitants en moins à l’horizon 2025 ! C’est ce que prévoit un rapport de la Banque Mondiale publié le 20 Juin 2007 sur la situation démographique de l’Arménie. Suivant la tendance de tous les pays anciennement soviétiques, l’Arménie a traversé durant la décennie suivant son indépendance une grave crise démographique. Même si les autorités arméniennes se sont vantées d’avoir mis un terme à cette crise par la diminution du taux migratoire, les faits vont en sens inverse. En fait la diminution de ce taux serait due à l’accroissement de l’immigration des arméniens de diaspora en Arménie. Un chiffre trompe l’?il donc, que les autorités arméniennes se réjouissent de diffuser. La réalité est toute autre, les arméniens d’Arménie ne font pas d’enfants et fuient massivement le pays. Qui blâmer ?

One Path

Elements of a day glide in and out of focus,

The background picture in my mind a mirage,

Could it truly be that months have come to pass

Since the moment our paths touched?

The paths becoming one!

Марга · 7 ноября 2007

The Armenian Times is the modern Armenian journal which you have always wanted to see. The place where you will read what you have always thought and where you can show us what you really feel. It is the place where untold stories will make headlines and where everyone has the right and ability to participate. Let us not stay passive, let each of us take responsibility in our destiny.

Editorial - 3rd of November 2007

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The Constitution

The 21st century will be remembered as the century of Diasporas and international Networks!

Our Diaspora communities are afraid of assimilation. The structures of most of our organizations and associations are mostly centralized organs of semi function. Our brains seem to be dogmatic with concepts of the past! Our methodology of work is far from today’s reality. Fear, confusion and mistrust for something new have paralyzed our growth! Inter-community communication has turned into processes of mistrust towards issues of nearly total irrelevance. Besides all these details, seemingly and collectively we still have not understood that actually Diasporas and Networks of such unimaginable potential have the best cards in the world of the 21st century.

The road against progress

Meghri is a terminal city of the Republic of Armenia; it is 3 km far from Armenian-Iranian border.

After collapse of USSR, when Armenia was in economic crisis, Meghri became a salvation road to Iran, from where food and other goods came to Armenia. Since that time in people’s mentality Meghri is associated with a road not with a city. Now nobody imagines that Megri is a settlement, and people live there. It takes 6 hours from Yerevan to Meghri. The citizens of Armenia do not visit Meghri, tourists do not visit it at all.

Immigration

The movement of large numbers of people into a country is a logistical problem whichever way you look at it. Population growth through an explosion in childbirth, greater longevity of life due to an increase in the standards of living and the inability of the state to plan and accommodate these trends with effective social and public policy and the creation of suitable infrastructure apparatus are also contributing factors.

Iraqi Armenians: They too had once a Homeland

"We deeply regret this incident" was the classical statement after the tragic killing of two civil Iraqi Armenians Maro and Geneva earlier this month in Baghdad. A Foreign Security Company staffed by the Australians in Iraq was held responsible for the shooting of these female Taxi drivers who were on their way back home. As if their daily fight and flight was not enough, the Armenian community in Iraq once again mourned f

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