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Я надеюсь, что скоро появятся документы, где будут упомянуты закулисные высказывания турок по поводу Мец Егерна... spiteful.gif

без закулис

Глава МИД Турции убеждал конгрессменов США не принимать резолюцию о Геноциде армян

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Стали известны подробности визита в Вашингтон с 27 по 30 ноября главы МИД Турции Ахмеда Давудоглу. По некоторым данным, политик обсудил главные вопросы турецкой внешней политики с несколькими конгрессменами США, включая турецко-израильские отношения.

Давудоглу в очередной раз заявил, что Турция ждет извинений и компенсации от Израиля в связи с инцидентом с «Флотилией мира», в результате которого погибло девять турок, пишет Anadolu.

На встречи с членами комитета по внешним отношениям Палаты Представителей США, Давудоглу обсудил резолюцию о признании Геноцида армян, которую комитет принял в марте этого года. Он отметил, что резолюция может повредить американо-турецким отношениям и напомнил о турецкой инициативе «изучить события 1915 года».

В ходе визита Давудоглу также провел встречу с госсекретарем США Хилари Клинтон.

Есть люди в которых живет Бог, есть люди в которых живет дьявол, а есть люди в которых живут только глисты.

Фаина Раневская
 

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Journalists from more than 60 countries join in support for WikiLeaks

Journalists and people from other professions from every region of the world have joined together to support the whistle-blowing organization Wikileaks and its founder Julian Assange who, they say, have provided an extraordinary resource for journalists around the world and made "an outstanding contribution to transparency and accountability on the Afghanistan and Iraq Wars".

The journalists, many of whom are prominent investigative reporters, come from countries as diverse as Russia and Namibia, and Israel and Indonesia, plus many from European countries and North America. The journalists, who are linked through investigative journalism networks, decided to speak out publicly after watching a growing campaign of threats and unfair criticisms against Assange and Wikileaks.

Following are the statement, the list of signatories and contacts for media inquiries about the statement in different regions of the world.

http://www.globalinvestigativejournalism.org/content/journalists-join-to-support-wikileaks

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Брад, у них есть еще шанс исправиться и стать гордым хламом )

После чего,напиться вхлам.
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Пошел слив по России:

Russia is a corrupt, autocratic kleptocracy centred on the leadership of Vladimir Putin, in which officials, oligarchs and organised crime are bound together to create a "virtual mafia state", according to leaked secret diplomatic cables that provide a damning American assessment of its erstwhile rival superpower.

Arms trafficking, money laundering, personal enrichment, protection for gangsters, extortion and kickbacks, suitcases full of money and secret offshore bank accounts in Cyprus: the cables paint a bleak picture of a political system in which bribery alone totals an estimated $300bn a year, and in which it is often hard to distinguish between the activities of the government and organised crime.

Among the most striking allegations contained in the cables, which were leaked to the whistleblowers' website WikiLeaks, are:

  • Russian spies use senior mafia bosses to carry out criminal operations such as arms trafficking.
  • Law enforcement agencies such as the police, spy agencies and the prosecutor's office operate a de facto protection racket for criminal networks.
  • Rampant bribery acts like a parallel tax system for the personal enrichment of police, officials and the KGB's successor, the federal security service (FSB).
  • Investigators looking into Russian mafia links to Spain have compiled a list of Russian prosecutors, military officers and politicians who have dealings with organised crime networks.
  • Putin is accused of amassing "illicit proceeds" from his time in office, which various sources allege are hidden overseas.

In a detailed and apparently plausible analysis of how corruption in the capital works, the US ambassador John Beyrle cited one source as saying: "Everything depends on the Kremlin … [former Moscow mayor Yuri] Luzhkov, as well as many mayors and governors, pay off key insiders in the Kremlin."

Beneath the Kremlin is a broad layer of top officials – mayors and governors – collecting money based on bribes almost like their own personal taxation system. At the next level down the FSB, interior ministry and police collect protection money from businesses, licit and illicit.

"Criminal elements enjoy a krysha [a term from the criminal/mafia world literally meaning roof or protection] that runs through the police, the federal security service, ministry of internal affairs (MVD) and the prosecutor's office, as well as throughout the Moscow city government bureaucracy," Beyrle noted. "The Moscow city government's direct links to criminality have led some to call it 'dysfunctional' and to assert that the government operates more as a kleptocracy than a government."

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Пошел слив по России:

Ну и что здесь для жителей России нового? Что коррупция проела всю систему и Путин с друзьями - главные коррупционеры? Хотя, может хоть международный резонанс заставит хоть кого-то посадить. Конечно, не Путина :biggrin:

Поэтому Лавров заранее высказался, что лики не представляют интереса для России... Потому что все всё это знают. rolleyes.gif

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Еще одна интересная цитата:

As an example, he cited Kalashov, whom he said worked for Russian military intelligence to sell weapons to the Kurds to destabilize Turkey.
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Конфуз в Астане: переговоры по Карабаху под угрозой срыва - Ереван требует гарантий

Армянские переговорщики по карабахской проблеме изменили свои подходы, и в перспективе согласны проводить двусторонние переговоры на уровне президентов лишь с условием определенных гарантий со стороны посредников. Об этом корреспонденту ИА REGNUM Новости заявил источник в дипломатических кругах РФ, участвовавший в подготовке встреч трех президентов (Дмитрия Медведева,Ильхама Алиева и Сержа Саргсяна) в Москве, Сочи и Астрахани. По его словам, армянская сторона до саммита в Астане передала по дипломатическим каналам, что не намерена встречаться с Алиевым, поскольку тот использует эти встречи в собственных внутриполитических целях.

Источник отметил, что армянская сторона, ссылаясь на документы, ставшие достоянием гласности благодаря сайту WikiLeaks, утверждает, что "Ильхам Алиев - ненадежный партнер, который после каждой встречи подставляет своих визави". Ереван требует, чтобы посредники оказали влияние на азербайджанского президента, потребовали, чтобы тот прекратил провокации и милитаристскую риторику.

"Армяне передали, что их президент не хочет говорить с Алиевым, и если тот однозначно решил завоевать Карабах силой, возобновить военные действия, то Ереван к такому сценарию готов", - заявил источник. По его словам, недовольство армянской стороны связано с тем, что Ильхам Алиев, возвращаясь в Баку после переговоров в присутствии посредников, пытается воздействовать на внутриполитические позиции своего оппонента - Сержа Саргсяна. "Делая бескомпромиссные, но лишенные практического содержания заявления, он представляет картину таким образом, что создается иллюзия слабости переговорных позиций Саргсяна", - пояснил источник, объясняя причины провала переговоров в Астане.

Стоит отметить, что WikiLeaks опубликовал на днях скандальные детали из политической практики президента Азербайджана, в частности, касающиеся его взаимоотношений с коллегами из России, Турции и Ирана. Азербайджанские государственные источники пытаются опровергнуть просочившиеся в прессу рапорты американских дипломатов и спецслужб.

http://www.regnum.ru/news/fd-abroad/azeri/1352428.html

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Алиев уклонился от встречи с президентами Армении и России

Наши дипломатические источники сообщают, что президент Азербайджана Ильхам Алиев в последний момент отказался от встречи с президентом Армении Сержем Саргсяном и президентом РФ Дмитрием Медведевым.

Судя по всему, он не смог найти объяснения разнице позиций, нашедших отражение в заявлении МГ ОБСЕ, подписанном также и от его имени, и в его выступлении.

Сопредседатели, которые желали организовать встречу, в недоумении

Источник: Panorama.am

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Вообще заголовок должен был быть таким - Президент Алиев обосрался в Астане, бегал в туалет, избегал встреч!

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НА "бегать в туалет" есь патент уже. Помните у кого? :-)

У РК ,патент на -"Сс..ть"

у ИАши патент на- "Обоср..тся".

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 НА "бегать в туалет" есь патент уже. Помните у кого? :-) 

Хе-хе, и кто выдал этот патент? Правильно, убогие азеры, чтоб оправдать свое бессилие придумали трюк с туалетом.

Так что ваш патент имеет силу только к вашему президенту!

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http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/09/09BAKU749.html

S E C R E T SECTION 01 OF 04 BAKU 000749

SIPDIS

NOFORN

DEPT FOR EUR/CARC, DAS KAIDANOW

E.O. 12958: DECL: 09/18/2034

TAGS: PGOV PREL AJ RU TU AM

SUBJECT: PRESIDENT ILHAM ALIYEV - MICHAEL (CORLEONE) ON THE

OUTSIDE, SONNY ON THE INSIDE

REF: A. BAKU 724 AND PREVIOUS

¶B. BAKU 534

¶C. 08 BAKU 1136

¶D. BAKU 526 AND PREVIOUS

¶E. BAKU 696 AND PREVIOUS

¶F. BAKU 287

Classified By: Charge Donald Lu, Reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).

¶1. (S/NF) Summary: Azerbaijan's President Ilham Aliyev

utilizes distinctly different approaches to foreign and

domestic policies. He typically devises the former with

pragmatism, restraint and a helpful bias toward integration

with the West, yet at home his policies have become

increasingly authoritarian and hostile to diversity of

political views. This divergence of approaches, combined

with his father's continuing omnipresence, has led some

observers to compare the Aliyevs with the fictional

"Corleones" of Godfather fame, with the current president

described alternately as a mix of "Michael" and "Sonny."

Either way, this Michael/Sonny dichotomy complicates our

approach to Baku and has the unfortunate effect of framing

what should be a strategically valuable relationship as a

choice between U.S. interests and U.S. values. End Summary.

¶2. (S/NF) This striking aspect of President Ilham Aliyev's

governing style was very neatly summed up recently by the

witty, but somewhat past-his-prime XXXXXXXXXXXX

XXXXXXXXXXXX (protect). Commenting

on the GOAJ's harsh reaction to the YouTube "donkey video"

(Reftel A), XXXXXXXXXXXX quipped to the Charge that what one must

understand about Aliyev, "He's not Michael Corleone, he's

Sonny." To some in Baku, XXXXXXXXXXXX Godfather analogy seems

apt - capturing essential truths not only about Ilham Aliyev,

but his father Heydar, who becomes by implication the "Vito

Corleone" of Azerbaijan. With that in mind, this cable

attempts to explain who Ilham Aliyev is and why he does what

h does. Aside from XXXXXXXXXXXX analogy, it also owe much to

the appraisals of Michael and Sonny from "The Godfather

Doctrine (2008)," by John Hulsman and A. Wess Mitchell.

"That's my family, Kay. It's not me."

---------------------------------------

¶3. © Ilham Aliyev inherited a newly independent,

resource-rich state, brought to order in the post-Soviet era

by this father, Heydar Aliyev, scarred by a catastrophic war

with Armenia that resulted in occupation of the

Nagorno-Karabakh enclave and seven surrounding Azerbaijani

regions. He assumed the presidency in 2003, concurrent with

his father's death, in an election marked by a lack of

competition and debate, at a time when Azerbaijan's

re-developed oil and gas resources were being brought on line

for export. Dogged by widespread doubts about his

suitability for leadership based on his age (then 41), lack

of achievements and a "playboy" image, he oversaw the launch

of a one million-barrels-per-day oil pipeline, which has

flooded official and unofficial coffers in Baku and serves as

the financial backbone of the country.

¶4. © The President and his cohorts, who largely were

carried over from his father's administration, now seek

predictability, stability and continuity to preserve and

protect public and private fortunes. Ilham Aliyev's

landslide 2008 re-election was followed by a hastily-called

March 2009 referendum, which among other things removed term

limits for the President. Aliyev's cabinet has changed very

little over the years, with few "reformers" brought in or

remaining in power. The Prime Minister position is largely

ceremonial and weak. Because of family connections, dynastic

succession, the strong arming of the opposition and the

creation of an elaborate patronage/protection network, the

Aliyev Administration has developed an "organized crime"

image in some quarters, leading some analysts to see Ilham

Aliyev at times in a mafia-like role.

"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgment."

BAKU 00000749 002 OF 004

--------------------------------------------- --------

¶5. © In their short study "The Godfather Doctrine,"

Hulsman and Mitchell present brothers Sonny and Michael

Corleone from "The Godfather" as exemplars of two out of

three schools of U.S. foreign policy thought (with

consigliere Tom Hagen representing the third.) However,

there are important points they raise about the two that

apply well to Aliyev and his policies abroad and at home.

Michael, they write, is a talented balancer of alliances,

aware of limitations on his own power who, importantly, knows

when something isn't personal, but only business. Sonny, by

contrast, is brash, impulsive, and puts blind faith in force

to address affronts to the Corleone family. For him,

business is personal. Finally, Sonny refuses to contemplate

a present or a future in which the Corleone family does not

dominate New York, despite obvious and growing portents to

the contrary.

"This is business, not personal" - Balanced Foreign Policy

--------------------------------------------- -------------

¶6. (S) President Aliyev inherited from his father a clever,

realistic foreign policy that he has largely maintained.

With the overarching goal of maintaining and increasing

Azerbaijan's independence and sovereignty, he encourages

involvement with NATO and Euro-Atlantic security and

political structures and supports a policy of westward

transit of Azerbaijani oil and gas through non-Russian

channels. Otherwise, though, he alternates between

assertiveness and appeasement where his powerful neighbors

Russia and Iran are concerned. For example, Azerbaijan

routinely accuses Russia of supplying Armenia with weapons

and pointedly absents itself from the Collective Security

Treaty Organization (CSTO), while participating in GUAM. At

the same time, Aliyev constantly plays up his relations with

President Medvedev with frequent visits and has kept open the

channels of negotiation on energy issues, concluding a small

but symbolically important agreement with Gazprom to supply

gas to Dagestan (Reftel B). He is assertive enough to defend

Azerbaijan's prerogative for an independent policy, but

discreet enough that he is in no danger of joining

Saakashvili on Moscow's hit list.

¶7. (S) In foreign policy, Aliyev has also been able to

maintain generally the distinction between "business and

personal." For all his bluster about Azerbaijan's legal

right to liberate the Armenian-occupied territories by force,

Aliyev has worked constructively on the Minsk Group-proposed

Basic Principles and developed a reportedly good rapport with

Armenian President Sargsian - in contrast to the much more

confrontational relationship between the countries' foreign

ministers. Similarly, even as Aliyev regards with horror the

prospect of Turkey-Armenia rapprochement ahead of

Nagorno-Karabakh resolution, the President has instructed

SOCAR to continue gas transit and supply talks with Turkey,

and no one in Baku has dared to consider a cut in oil exports

through the BTC pipeline. The gas transit talks are a

hardball affair to be sure, but Aliyev surely recognizes that

Azerbaijan cannot really afford a total rupture with Turkey

and certainly is not going to go so far as to foreclose on

options out of pique while the Turkey-Armenia question

remains open.

"You touch my sister again and I'll kill you." - The Hardliner

--------------------------------------------- -----------------

¶8. (S) For all of the cool-headed calculation that generally

influences Aliyev's foreign policy, his domestic policies are

another matter. As Aliyev perceives a challenge to his

authority or affronts to his family dignity, even minor ones,

he and his inner circle are apt to react (or overreact), much

to the detriment of the country's democratic development and

movement toward Western alliances. The example of the crude

retaliation against the young bloggers Emin Milli and Adnan

Hajizade is the most recent and public example (Reftel A).

Earlier, defending his decision to rescind licenses for

foreign broadcasters, Aliyev expressed his anger that Radio

BAKU 00000749 003 OF 004

Liberty had mocked his plan to build the world's tallest

flagpole in the Baku port area, demonstrating exceedingly

thin skin (Reftel C).

¶9. (S/NF) It is examples like these that inspired XXXXXXXXXXXX

quip to the Charge about Sonny and Michael. XXXXXXXXXXXX

elaborated on the point in that conversation, recalling times

when he was an XXXXXXXXXXXX and similar

situations arose. Heydar would never have allowed himself to

be goaded into ridiculous reactions, he said. (Note:

XXXXXXXXXXXX memory on this might be a little selective, but he

has a point that the space for opinion was wider under the

last President, a view often echoed by journalists who look

back to the 1990s nostalgically. End Note.) Ilham Aliyev,

in XXXXXXXXXXXX view, is not inclined to subtlety or

deliberation in his response to these kinds of issues.

"I don't feel I have to wipe everybody out. Just my enemies."Q----------------------------------- --------------------------

¶10. (S) Aliyev takes the actions he does in order to

eliminate even the semblance of risk to his political

prominence. His goal appears to be a political environment

in which the Aliyev dynasty is unchallenged, which was

demonstrated by the hastily organized March 2009

constitutional referendum removing presidential term limits.

This strangled the hopes of any and all pretenders to

succession, including his wife (who in Azeri politics is

thought of as a rival Pashayev, not an Aliyev).

¶11. (S) The dissonance between Aliyev's sensible approach to

foreign affairs, manifested by the cosmopolitan image he

presents to Western visitors, with his tailored suits and

flawless English, and the unpleasant reality of his approach

to domestic issues raises the obvious question of how these

two realities coexist. One explanation is that Aliyev is

insecure in domestic politics and relies heavily on the

advice of old-line Soviet-style political figures carried

forward from his father's administration, such as

Presidential Chief of Staff Ramiz Mehdiyev. Alternatively,

Aliyev's domestic actions are free choices made in accordance

with his instincts, with Mehdiyev and others playing the

"heavy.".

¶12. (S) Occasionally, Aliyev's confident tough-guy image

gives way to an impression that he is yielding on domestic

issues. Outside pressure does not always fail. A recent

positive example was the outcome of the parliament's

initiative to ram through a Russian-style law on NGOs. In

the face of a domestic outcry - including from

government-supported NGOs, the Presidential Administration

intervened to prevent the law as drafted from passing (Reftel

D). Likewise, the President recently rejected a bill from

parliament that would have required foreign-based entities to

hire vetted Azerbaijanis citizens as deputy directors. The

business community strongly opposed this bill (Reftel E).

Also, the government earlier this year released one of the

prominent journalists whose imprisonment was widely believed

to have been politically motivated (Reftel F).

"Keep your friends close and your enemies closer."

--------------------------------------------- -----

¶13. (S) Comment: It is clear that Azerbaijan's future

development would better suit United States policy goals if

Aliyev pursued his domestic policies in a manner that

resembled his foreign policy methods, however imperfect they

may be. A full-scale democratic conversion, however, is an

unlikely outcome, and the record of presidents in this region

leaving office voluntarily is rather thin. What is desirable

and perhaps achievable, however, is that Aliyev would govern

as a manager of alliances, viewing the political space

occupied by dissents as a source of ideas and a warning

system for when policies are hurting the national interest;

and ceasing to feel that he should strike hard at every

criticism that arises, or that he can do so without

consequences. At least this type of evolution would better

prepare Azerbaijan for the post-Ilham Aliyev era, whenever

BAKU 00000749 004 OF 004

that begins.

¶14. (S) Comment Continued: Here is where the Godfather

analogy begins to break down. In Azerbaijan the role of

loyal consigliere to the father and the son is played by the

long-time head of Presidential Administration Ramiz Mehdiyev.

Mehdiyev is no calm, conciliating Tom Hagen. We do not know

if President Aliyev personally ordered the many iron-fisted

domestic initiatives, although he almost certainly approved

them, even if after-the-fact. We do see Mehdiyev's

fingerprints all over the arrests of journalists, the

stifling of opposition leaders, the closure of mosques, the

restrictions on the media and the general law-and-order

approach to governance. Is he the puppet or the

puppet-master? At age 71 and often seen in frail health,

this is an increasingly important question. While the rule

of 47-year old Ilham Aliyev could continue for decades, it

would be most likely without the benefit of his consigliere.

Without Mehdiyev, it is not clear whom Aliyev will turn to

for help in maintaining the same firm grip on the instruments

of power.

¶15. (U) "Don Corleone, I need a man with powerful friends .

. . I need all of those policians you carry around in your

pocket, like so many nickels and dimes."

LU

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    • Наверно многие заметили, что в популярных темах, одна из них "Межнациональные браки", дискуссии вокруг армянских традиций в значительной мере далеки от обсуждаемого предмета. Поэтому решил посвятить эту тему к вопросам связанные с армянами и Арменией с помощью вопросов и ответов. Правила - кто отвечает на вопрос или отгадает загадку первым, предлагает свой вопрос или загадку. Они могут быть простыми, сложными, занимательными, важно что были связаны с Арменией и армянами.
      С вашего позволения предлагаю первую загадку. Будьте внимательны, вопрос легкий, из армянских традиций, забитая в последние десятилетия, хотя кое где на юге востоке Армении сохранилась до сих пор.
      Когда режутся первые зубы у ребенка, - у армян это называется атамнаhатик, атам в переводе на русский зуб, а hатик - зерно, - то во время атамнаhатика родные устраивают праздник с угощениями, варят коркот из зерен пшеницы, перемешивают с кишмишом, фасолью, горохом, орехом, мелко колотым сахаром и посыпают этой смесью голову ребенка. Потом кладут перед ребенком предметы и загадывают. Вопрос: какие предметы кладут перед ребенком и что загадывают?    
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