Резолюция по Геноциду в Швеции

[Artour]

Ishxanutyun 4 partia. Oppozician 3 partia. Bayc chgitem von cen qvearkelu.mot 15 deputat ka.greka xosum Hima

[Desperado Хайский]

Насколько я помню, из провластных партий только Умеренные Карла Бильдта выступают против резолюции.

Удачи вам, Артур!

[Sigo]

Уже который раз политики из разных стран,которые выступают против признания Геноцида,аргументируют это тем,что мол признание ухудшит отношение их страны с Турцией,ну или ухудшит процесс примирения Армении и Турции.Такому политику,будь то президент,премьер или просто депутат надо просто задать один резонный вопрос.Спросить,мол господин(мистер,синьор...) такой то, из ваших слов следует,что Вы лично признаёте Геноцид,но считаете что из каких то соображений,его признавать не надо?Т.е. по-вашему получается,что за ради каких то соображений надо замять правду,которая касается гибели миллионов людей?И посмотреть,как этот представитель власти демократической страны будет выходить из положения.

[Desperado Хайский]

The Swedish parliament will vote Thursday afternoon on a motion to recognize the 1915 Armenian genocide.

The motion has the backing of members of five of the seven Swedish parliamentary parties including the Left Party, whose foreign policy spokesperson Hans Linde told The Local on Thursday that the time had come for Sweden to take a stand on the issue.

"Firstly, to hinder any repeat and to learn from history. Secondly, to encourage the development of democracy in Turkey - which includes dealing with their own history. Thirdly, to redress the wrongs committed against the victims and their descendants," Linde said.

While several centre-right politicians have supported the motion and, according to Linde, made their support public on Thursday, the vote's outcome is uncertain as the parliamentary Committee on Foreign Affairs has recommended its rejection.

"In principle, recognition of the 1915 genocide is supported by five of the seven parliamentary parties. But I expect the motion to be rejected as they have reached an agreement within the government coalition," Linde said.

The committee in its comments on the motion argued for an open debate on the issue. It also stated that the persecution of the Armenians and other ethnic groups in 1915 would have constituted genocide according to the definition adopted by the United Nations in its 1948 genocide convention if it "had it been in force at the time."

But the committee states that it does not consider it parliament's role to rule on human rights issues and that it should instead be addressed by "open research, open access to facts, and free debate."

Sweden's Minister of Foreign Affairs Carl Bildt agreed with the committee's position in comments on his blog Alla Dessa Dagar on Thursday. Under the heading "Don't politicize history," Bildt wrote:

"A politicizing of history in this way risks undermining ongoing reconciliation processes, plays into the hands of those opposing normality in Armenia and reform in Turkey... and creating new tension in the Swedish society."

The committee concluded in its comments that the Turkish government has in recent years made some movement on the issue, with conferences arranged on the subject as well as broader media debate.

The Swedish parliament has voted on the issue before, even approving a report in 2000 recognizing the disappearance of as many as 2.5 million Armenians, Chaldeans, Syrians, Assyrians and Pontian Greeks from April 1915 as genocide. But the recognition was later withdrawn "on a technicality", Hans Linde told The Local.

"The parliament also voted against recognition (by 245 to 37) in 2008. The difference this time is that the Social Democrats have changed their position," he said.

Carl Bildt claimed in his statement that the Social Democrat parliamentary group was forced to change standpoint on the issue as a result of a party congress vote, arguing that there are "several that feel deep unease over this."

According local newspaper Länstidningen i Södertälje, Syrian and Assyrian groups in Sweden plan to demonstrate at the parliament in central Stockholm in support of the motion. The groups fear clashes after it emerged that Turkish groups are also expected to attend. Södertälje is home to large numbers of people of Syrian and Assyrian descent.

The chairperson of the national Turkish organization in Sweden, Hasan Dölek, confirmed to the newspaper that he plans to be in attendance, but as a private indvidual. He also argued that the Swedish parliament has no business discussing the issue.

According to Sweden's Living History Forum, most researchers are now in agreement that the massacres constituted genocide according to the accepted 1948 UN definition. The exception to this is Turkish researchers. The Turkish government has never recognized the events as a genocide and it is illegal in Turkey to claim that it occurred.

The Living History Forum is a Swedish public authority which works with issues on tolerance, democracy and human rights from both a national and international perspective.

The Local has made attempts to contact the foreign policy spokespersons at the Centre and Liberal (Folkpartiet) parties for a comment.

Peter Vinthagen Simpson

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+46 8 656 6518

http://www.thelocal.se/25468/20100311/

Нашел статью, где дается примерный расклад

[Artour]

Ov dema chi zhxtum Ayl uxarkuma michazgayin dataran kam protokolner patmabaner

[Desperado Хайский]

Давид принес нам еще одну новость:

В парламент Испании внесен законопроект о признании Геноцида армян. Авторами документа являются представители левой республиканской партии Каталонии и трое депутатов от Союза зеленых.

Они предлагают также включить в законопроект пункт о том, чтобы испанское государство выступило в пользу урегулирования армяно-турецких отношений и призвало Евросоюз поддержать процесс диалога Ереван-Анкара.

[Desperado Хайский]

Три статьи на шведском. Знающие язык, передайте хотя бы смысл, пожалуйста:

http://www.expressen.se/debatt/1.1913508/annelie-enochson-kd-folkmord-maste-kallas-folkmord

http://www.expressen.se/kultur/1.1913539/dilsa-demirbag-sten-turkiet

http://www.expressen.se/ledare/1.1913505/fel-att-rosta-om-folkmordet

[Artour]

Qurd xosac.teman toxe qrdakan harcner qnnarkum.Hima shveda mer koxmic.5 hogi mnac.chgitem khascnen erevi esor

[utkarsh]

Ishxanutyun 4 partia. Oppozician 3 partia. Bayc chgitem von cen qvearkelu.mot 15 deputat ka.greka xosum Hima

[Artour]

Mi hate qurd xosac ishxanakan tevic.saxin vochnchacrec.hayeri qristneutyunic

inchev bibliakan ARarati patmutyunic.ete na mer koxmic linelov ishxanutyun uremn shanser bardsra.4 hogi ka.mek nel avelacav

[Desperado Хайский]

Эка сколько гостей сюда навалило!

Читайте-читайте, господа статисты.

[Artour]

Meronq(oppozitian)ach koxmna nranq dzax koxmnen nstel.meronq shaten norer avelacan.hayna xosum u mi hogiel ka.karcher hima vercinÀ

[Artour]

mot mi 15 deputatel ekan.qvearkelu zhamna

motikanum

[Artour]

Knereq es norer urish harcen qvearkelu.mer harc heto erevi qvearken.kimanam kgrem

[Ardzan]

Если верить турчатскому послу в Швеции, - 171 депутатов уже известны как сторонники признания факта Геноцида.

Чтобы проект был принят достаточно 175 голосов.

Думаю, что еще 4 голоса должны набраться.